Trigger warning: this episode discusses suicide.
(Trigger warning for any Royals fans, this episode references Game 7 of the 2014 World Series.)
This episdoe is the one that is nearest and dearest to my heart.
I sat down to talk with my mom, Susan, and my Aunt Linda (her sister) about the deaths of their parents, but more specifically about their mom.
Their mom’s suicide, as you will hear, happened when they were relatively young, in their 20s, so for me it was always a known factor about their lives, and subsequently mine, too. I very rarely pursued any conversation with them about her. I think at first this was because I was young, but later because I didn’t know what to say, it felt a bit like a ‘case closed’ situation, more of a circumstance than a thing to be investigated.
Obviously as I’ve grown older and now especially as I interview people and learn more about grief, I understand that this is pretty far off the mark! And after conducting this interview, I’m looking forward to learning more from future conversations.
We also talk about my grandpa Pat’s death four years ago, and how different that experience was for both of them.
I love these women, so much! I frequently offer them to my friends as a substitute mom or aunt, which I’m not actually sure I’ve mentioned to them… but if you’re in need, hit me up!
But/And – one of the best things about having them in my life is how much we laugh! Even when discussing one of the toughest, saddest moments of their life, their laughter and light and crazy storytelling skills and emotions shine through.
I hope you love it as much as I did!
PS – Mom & Linda reference Michael Jackson’s song, “She’s Out of My Life” — and Linda was not. kidding. when she said it was a dirge. Yikes.
PPS – My mom says she’s never actually listened to the lyrics past the opening line, but I think the opening lyrics are even more disturbing: “She’s out of my life / And I don’t know whether to laugh or cry / I don’t know whether to live or die.” If you’re hearing that and thinking of your dead mother who you had a complicated relationship with … OMG!?